Are you really afraid to say that the intentional taking of life is wrong?
Tucker Carlson’s guests may sometimes be better defined as victims as they come ill prepared to deal with his in-depth knowledge and debating skills. So it will come as no surprise that Democratic Congressman Eric Swalwell did not fare too well.
Carlson ripped apart Rep. Swalwell’s assertion that President Trump’s supreme court choice was “extremist” and this before he even knew the president’s pick.
It got even more heated when the congressman encouraged Americans to “resist” Trump’s pick.
Here’s part of the transcript:
Carlson: He (Gorsuch) wrote in a book about ethics, “All human beings are intrinsically valuable and the intentional taking of human life by private persons is always wrong.” Do you believe that?
Swalwell: All human beings are intrinsically valuable. However, Roe v. Wade says that a woman has a right to make a decision about her own healthcare.
Carlson: I’m not asking you about Roe v Wade. I’m asking you to assess what he said here…as a general statement. ”All human beings are intrinsically valuable,” you agree with that. The second part is, “The taking of human life by private persons is always wrong,” do you agree with that or not?
Swalwell: The most personal decision a person can make is a woman with her a doctor about her own body and a person who is terminally ill about whether they want to die in peace and he [Gorsuch] has chosen that the government should intervene.
Carlson: Will you answer my question? “The intentional taking of of human life by private persons is always wrong.” Now if you can’t agree on that…
Swalwell: The Constitution says…”
Carlson: I’m not talking about the Constitution. What do you think…I’m not talking about women’s rights. “The intentional taking of human life by private persons.” That’s what he said, and I want to know whether you agree with that statement or not.
Swalwell: What he has shown in his legal career…
Carlson: (Laughs) Are you really afraid to say that the intentional taking of life is wrong?
Swalwell: No, of course not. I was a prosecutor and I prosecuted people for intentionally taking life.
Carlson: But you won’t agree with this because you are afraid of the abortion lobby, like “Woo, you are anti-abortion if you are against the taking of human life.” I mean, come on!
Swalwell: A woman has the right to make her own decision about her own healthcare.
Carlson: Do you think it is the taking of human life? Abortion?
Swalwell: I think that right now…before viability, a woman should be able to make her own decision. After viability, in the case of her own psychological health, in the case of rape or incest, she should also be able to make that decision.
Carlson: Okay, but is it the taking of human life?
Swalwell: That is a woman’s personal decision.
Carlson: But is it? I’m not asking about the decision, I mean is it human life or not. What do you think?
Swalwell: She is terminating something she does not want and that’s her own choice.
Carlson: Okay, but do you think it is human life? Swalwell: I think at viability it may be, you know, but it should be decided by the woman. She is the one who has to have it. Carlson: You brought it up. Do you think before viability it is human life or something else?
Swalwell: I think if it is not viable yet Tucker, the courts have decided…
Carlson: You aren’t going to answer my question now or ever, I think. But you should because it’s a basic question.
The National Review made an excellent point about the congressman,
Apparently Swalwell is unaware that the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 in 1997 that there is no constitutional right to assisted suicide. And if he can’t or won’t answer the basic question Carlson posed about what exactly it is that abortion terminates, perhaps he should take some basic embryology and biology courses.
Tucker Carlson is a terrific interviewer. Swalwell’s obsessive hugging of his media trainer’s talking points made him come across as a stunningly callow fellow.